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Chinny Reckon

Posted by Big Boo on January 18th, 2008

Chinny Reckon - It’s Jimmy HillHere’s a puzzle for you. Just how do school playground catchphrases spread so quickly, and who invents them in the first place. Looking back it seems strange how suddenly everyone at your school would suddenly latch on to the latest fun thing to say. I’m not talking about catchphrases from TV shows either. No, I’m talking about those weird little sayings that pop up seemingly from nowhere, and for me a great example is the “Chinny Reckon” insult.

What a great insult “Chinny Reckon” was. It’s main use was to let somebody know that you frankly didn’t believe whatever it was they had just said. For example:-

Kid 1: My Dad’s just got a new Ferrari.
Kid 2: Chinny Reckon.

It was most important to get the correct pronunciation, as you had to make it sound as sarcastic as possible, and the best way to do this was to split the word “reckon” into it’s two syllables and say them with as much disdain as you could muster.

There was also an accompanying action to add further emphasis to your belief that your school chum was a dirty fat liar. Stroking your chin as though you were thinking about something was the first level of emphasisation, but by exagerating the action you could imply that your friend was a complete idiot and nothing they said could ever possibly be true. The method of exageration was simply to perfrom the same rubbing action, but pretending that your chin stretched out as far as your arm could reach.

Yet more embelishment was possible by the alternate forms of the phrase itself. You could use any one or more of the following in any order you saw fit (and I’ve now included some of the others added in the comments posted by some of you) :-

  • • Itch my chin
  • • Rub my chin
  • • Chin rub
  • • Chim chinnery (Bill Macfarlane)
  • • Chinny reckoff (thanks Dave the rave)
  • • Chinny beard (thanks Steve)
  • • Tutankhamun (Dave the rave again)
  • • Jackanory (Bill Macfarlane again)
  • • Itchy beard (Bill Macfarlane and Markowe)
  • • Jimmy Hill

That final one probably explains where the phrase comes from. Jimmy Hill is a UK footballing legend, having been a player, coach, manager, director and chairman of a football club. He is well known for having a particularly large chin, and for not always being the most reliable source of information when questioned – not because he was a liar though, I hasten to add, just that he made the odd predictive mistake!


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18 Responses to “Chinny Reckon”

  1. dave the rave Says:

    For extreme lies, the chinny reck-off (reckon, reckoff, see?) was brought into play, and in some cases the Tutankhamun (”tutankah-moooonn”)

  2. Big Boo Says:

    I’d forgotten the reck-off one, thanks for jogging the old grey cells on that one. Never come across the Tutankhamun one before, but I can imagine the kids in the playground now… Cheers Dave, nice one!

  3. Steve Says:

    thanks for this, not sure how I stumbled accross it but what a magnificent bit of playground language, had to use it in an online forum after remembering it, and no-one knew what the hell I was talking about.

    Also varied here to “chinny beard” though much less frequently used than the original…

  4. bill macfarlane Says:

    chinny reckon is a classic. Im 42 and still use it on my kids (old habits..) variants of the insult that we used back then included: itchy beard, chim chinnery (ala chitty chitty bang bang) jimmy hill, rory rory tell us a story, jackanory.. Really dragging out the nory bit. Or just rubbing the chin while jutting the jaw. See ya! Just dont get sussed about it.

  5. Big Boo Says:

    Thanks for that Bill. I love Chim Chinnery, although I think you probably meant Mary Poppins not Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

    I can just imagine kids using Rory, Rory tell us a story in the playground, that’s brilliant! Reminds me of an old series called Animal Crackers where a bunch of large monsters from outer space played in a band. I think it was a seventies show…

  6. Gabby Cancello Says:

    Sometimes the phrase need not be uttered. Just the stroking of the chin was enough to show disbelief.

    If i tried this at home 9 times out of 10 my little brother would grass me up.

  7. markowe Says:

    Please add “itchy beard”! This was the usual variant in my part of the world (Harlow, Essex).

  8. Big Boo Says:

    It’s amazing how every school kid in the country probably knew about this, just with different phrases. The stroking of the chin appears to be a constant though.

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  11. Jack Nasty Says:

    Oh you can take the Jimmy Hill connection to the bank. It definitely originated from him. I know this because there is still a set of old, fading ‘funny stickers’ stuck on the inside of my old wardrobe at my Mum’s house, and one is a caricature of the Hillster with a comedy chin (even more comedy than said chin naturally proclaims), and at the bottom of the sticker it says in bold, colourful comedy font……yes…you guessed it…..’Chinny Reckon?!’ These stickers were given away in some breakfast cereal or another in the 80’s. I still have a chuckle every time I see his face peering out of my old wardrobe.

    Does anyone remember the ’showing up’ cuss “Shell”….I’m a Mancunian, so I don’t know if it is a local thing or not, but say some kid slipped on his arse in front of you and your boys….everyone would shout “Shell!” at him. I don’t have the foggiest where that one originated. Anyone?

  12. Rob Says:

    This seems a fairly good case:

    http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20081023085307AAWFiue

    Check the Wiki link from it which explains the West Country / Germanic origin.

  13. Big Boo Says:

    That’s fascinating Rob, many thanks! I recommend following Rob’s link if your interested in this at all!

  14. Mr. Fatuous Says:

    It was Barra Hee at our school. I’ve no idea where that came from.

  15. Rus2B Says:

    There was a teacher at one of my old schools called Mr. Record and he had a big chin so we called him Chinny Reckon. Another one that got used was ‘Brucie!’ as in Bruce Forsyth.

  16. Big Boo Says:

    I’ll bet all the kids used to run about going “Good game, good game” as well! ;-)

  17. Lara Says:

    Wow…this bought back some memories of sibling torture…my brother used to pin me down and deliver an alternating Chinny, Slap’ead, Chinny, slap ‘ead combination. With arms pinned by your sides it is not possible to protect the under chin area and the top of the head simultaneously..as you can imagine. This was usually preceded by the “typewriter” fingers drumming into the top of the ribs and a cheery ding! as he smacked me round the ear to start the next line of typing…luv you bruv!
    (of course he was always careful not to leave any marks)

  18. Rus2B Says:

    Another one that was used at my school was ‘Lalas!’ as in the footballer who played for the USA in the 1994 World Cup and until recently was involved with LA Galaxy. Not because of the big chin, but because of the lengthy ginger beard.

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